Offical 3 Man MWPPA Thread- Dates-Cost-Rules-Sign Up-Prizes

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We will be hosting a three man event. The event will be at Air Assault Paintball on March 1 and 2!

Sign up by Feb 5 and teams will receive paint for $60 a case
Deadline to sign up is Feb 26!

Entry fees will be

Beginner $150
Rookie $150
Novice $150
Amateur $150

To see a complete list click here: http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi-bin/showteams.cgi

To sign up for this event click here: http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi-bin/register.cgi

Field dimensions will be 90X60

Prizes:

If we have 5 or more paid teams in the beginner division and 6 or more in the Rookie/Novice/Am division
Beginner
1st Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Elbow Pads
2nd Place-3 Profilers/3 NXE Elbow Pads
3rd Place-3 Ego Jerseys/ 3 NXE Packs
4th Place- 3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads
Rookie
1st Place-3 Grillz/3 Ego Gear Bags
2nd Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Elbow Pads
3rd Place-3 Ego Jerseys/3 NXE Packs
4th Place-3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads
Novice
1st Place-3 68 cubic inch 4500 psi Draxxus tanks/ $150.00
2nd Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Elbow Pads
3rd Place-3 Ego Jerseys/ 3 NXE Knee Pads
4th Place-3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Packs
Amateur
1st Place-3 Journey Loaders/3 NE Gear Bags
2nd Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Elbow Pads
3rd Place-3 Ego Jerseys/ 3 NXE Packs
4th Place-3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads

If we have 5 or more beginner and 6 or more Rookie and Novice. (If AM division fails to fill spots)
Beginner
1st Place- 3 Torque Loaders/ 3 Profilers
2nd Place- 3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Packs
3rd Place-3 Ego Jerseys/3 Elbow Pads
4th Place-3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads
Rookie
1st Place-3 Grillz/3 Journey Loaders
2nd Place- 3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/$100
3rd Place-3 Ego Jerseys/3 Packs
4th Place-3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads
Novice
1st Place-3 68 cubic inch 4500 psi Draxxus tanks/3 NXE Gear Bags
2nd Place-3 Ego Gear Bags/ 3 NXE Packs
3rd Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Elbow Pads
4th Place-3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Packs

If we have 5 or more paid teams in the beginner division and 6 or more in the Rookie division (If Novice and Am fail to fill their spots)
Beginner
1st Place-3 Grillz/3 Torque Loaders/3 NXE Elbow Pads
2nd Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves/3 NXE Packs
3rd Place-3 NXE Gear Bags/3 NXE Packs
4th Place-3 Ego Jerseys/3 NXE Elbow Pads
5th Place- 3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads
Rookie
1st Place-3 68 cubic inch 4500 psi Draxxus tanks/3 Ego Gear Bags
2nd Place-3 Profilers/3 Journey Loaders
3rd Place-3 Eclipse Pants/3 Eclipse Jerseys/3 Eclipse Gloves
4th Place-3 Ego Jerseys/3 NXE Elbow Pads
5th Place- 3 NXE Elbow Pads/3 NXE Knee Pads




Will have a link to this in the next couple of days (Waiting on web guys)
Rules

2008
Official MWPPA
3-Man Rules
www.MWPPA.com
Table of Contents
Last revision 1-18-08

1.0 INFORMATION
1.01. The event promoter will supply tournament information, including information concerning entry fees, an itinerary and schedule of events including time and place for the rules meeting and the captains meeting, a waiver form and the MWPPA rules, to any team having entered the competition in need of the same.
1.02. A rules meeting will be held in conjunction with the captains meeting of each competition. The purpose of this meeting is for the judging staff to answer questions concerning these rules.
1.03. A captains meeting will be held on the morning of the competition. The purpose of this meeting is to provide information to the captains of the teams attending concerning the organization, administration and non-field rules and regulations governing the tournaments.
1.04. A complete schedule for preliminary round play, consisting of each teams opponents, the fields it will play on, and its scheduled game times will be distributed during each team's check-in prior to the competition and, thereafter.
1.05. Teams may examine the fields and or conduct any activity to prepare for tournament play. No team or member thereof shall in any way alter any playing field.
1.05.1 All players and staff must check in at one time. Any roster
changes will be made at this time.
1.06. Registration for all MWPPA events will be cut off 4 days preceding the event. Registration will end at 12:01am on Wednesday morning, the week of the event. Registration for all teams will include team name, playing status, team roster and full payment. Waivers may be turned in at the event check-in prior to the start of the event.

1.1 FEES
1.11. Beginner Division- Entrance fees are set at $150.00 per event.
1.12. Rookie Division – Entrance fees are set at $150.00 per event.
1.13. Novice Division – Entrance fees are set at $150.00 per event.
1.14. Amateur Division- Entrance fees are set at $150.00 per event.

1.15. The MWPPA is a FILED PAINT ONLY EVENT; Draxxus branded paintballs and RPS paintballs will be available for purchase at all events.

Paintballs Offered:
DXS Silver - $65 per case
Evil - $65 Per case

1.2 Team Rosters
1.21. A three player team may have up to 5 players on their roster, but may field a maximum of 3 in any one game.
1.22. No player may appear on more than one team roster per tournament.
1.23. All teams must submit complete rosters prior to play.


1.3 Team Rosters – Composition
1.31. Players will play the division they are classified as, rookie will play rookie and novice will play novice etc… You can not drop a player of higher ranking into a lower ranking team.

1.4 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION –Amateur
1.41. A player will be considered AMATEUR if they meet the following criteria:
a) If the player is ranked Division 2 X-Ball or PSP, or
b) If the player is ranked Division 2 within the NPPL, or
c) If the player has been recognized by PSP or NPPL as a Division 2 player, or
d) If the player has been rostered on a Amateur/Open MWPPA team, or
1.42. A player will be considered Amateur if they are currently rostered on a Amateur team, or if they do not qualify for the Novice Division.
1.43. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.
1.44. No Pro ranked players allowed.

1.5 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION - Novice

1.51. A player will be considered NOVICE if they meet the following criteria:
a) If the player is ranked Division 3 X-Ball or PSP, or
b) If the player is ranked Division 3 within the NPPL, or
c) If the player has been recognized by PSP or NPPL as a Division 3 player, or
d) If the player has been rostered on a Novice MWPPA team, or
1.52. A player will be considered NOVICE if they are currently rostered on a Novice team, or if they do not qualify for the Rookie Division.
1.53. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

1.6 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION - Rookie
1.61. A player will be considered ROOKIE if they meet the following
criteria:
a) If the player is ranked Division 4 within the PSP, or
b) If the player has not been rostered on an NPPL Divisional 7-Man roster.
1.62. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, or
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

2.0 FIELD STANDARDS
2.01. All game fields shall be free from anything that would pose an unnecessary risk to players, including stumps, holes, areas with jagged rock. etc.
2.02. Both players and judges should be able to move freely on game fields, and game fields should not contain significant wet or swampy areas, dense undergrowth and the like to impede free movement thereon.
2.03. Fields will consist of three flag stations, two team flag stations and a center flag station. The center flag will be placed at mid field, in such a manner as to assure that players equally fast can reach the center flag station from either team flag station in the same amount of time.
2.04. All bunkers shall be adequately secured in a stationary position so as to
withstand a reasonable amount of force and remain in place. A bunker shall be arranged on the playing field in such a manner to be playable from both the left hand and right hand sides.


2.1 OFF-FIELD PRE-GAME STRUCTURE
2.11. Each team is expected to report to the game field at least 10 minutes prior to the scheduled start of their game.
2.12. All teams will be afforded the opportunity to chronograph their equipment before going to the field to play. It is each team's responsibility to ensure that it's players are under 275 fps. There will be a mandatory pregame chronographing of each team. Players will be chronied prior to the
game. Any player found to be shooting over 275 fps will not be allowed on the game field until their marker has been adjusted down to an acceptable muzzle speed, or the offending marker has been replaced by a marker that doesn’t exceed the maximum chronograph speed.
2.13. The event staff may inspect a marker for the following:
(1) the presence of foreign matter in the barrel, feed port or loader;
(2) tightness of screws, barrel, tank and other working parts which can increase or decrease velocity;
(3) presence of valves or expansion chambers which can be turned on or off; all valves will be placed in the fully open position;
(4) presence of external velocity adjusters which are not covered or fixed in place; and
(5) any other device, part or item which would enable a player to increase the muzzle velocity of the marker on the game field without resorting to the use of tools.
(6) any other device, part or item which would enable a player to operate his marker in an illegal mode on the game field without resorting to the use of tools.
2.14. Players are responsible for removing old hits or bringing the same to the attention of a field judge so that it may be dealt with in a manner that would not result in the elimination of a player.
2.15. Players are not allowed to bring tools or other prohibited equipment onto the game field. Presence of such equipment may result in a penalty and disciplinary proceedings against the offending player and/or team.

2.2 GAME STRUCTURE
2.21 A game will end at the earliest of:
i. a successful flag hang,
ii. Flag goes out of bounce
iii. the elimination of all players on the game field, or
iv. 5 minutes after the start of the game.
2.22. Teams will be instructed to leave their barrel blocking devices on their markers until the 10 second warning is about to be given. At this time the Head judge will instruct the teams to remove their barrel blocking devices and issue the10 second warning to signal the start of the game.
2.23. Starting procedures will be standardized at every hosting site. Players will place their gun barrels on some portion of the starting station. Marker barrels must be angled toward the ground and below the waist of the user of the marker. Players may turn their bodies including their faces in any
direction that the player chooses. Any player that doesn't have his/her barrel touching the starting station and below the waist at the start of the game is subject to be eliminated. All forms of starting stations shall be in bounds and in play.
2.24. The head judge on the field will begin a game by giving a 10 second warning so that each team may hear clearly such warning. The head judge will give such warning with a countdown of "Three, two, one, 10 seconds." Thereafter, the Head Judge will announce 10 seconds thereafter the game will start by the head judge shouting so that each team may hear, by radio or otherwise, either, "Game on." or "Go, go, go."
2.25. A first flag pull occurs when a player not eliminated physically grabs the center flag, before a player from the other team manages to do the same. Only one team in a game may earn first flag pull points.
2.26. Flag hang points are awarded when a player breaks the plane of a flag station with a flag. Flag hangs may be awarded in conjunction with or independently of first flag pulls. Flag hangs are only awarded when a flag is hung in the opponents flag station while the player has possession of the flag. Flag hangs may be awarded to the team that is not in possession of the flag when it is hung, since it is the flag and the station that it is hung in that determines the points awarded and to whom. The status of the flag carrying player will first be verified and before a flag hang is considered to be official. The time that the flag carrier breaks the plane of the flag station with the flag will be recorded by the flag field judge, and should that player be determined to be live after being checked by the field flag judge, the hang will be announced and the game will have ended as of the time that such player broke the plane of the flag station.
2.27. A game will end only by the head judge on the field announcing, "Game over."
2.28. Players that are eliminated, immediately upon elimination, must exit the game field by the most direct route to the dead box or as directed by a field judge.
2.29. All live players at the end of a game must present themselves to a field judge at the center of the field. At this time a field judge will inspect the player for hits and if any are found, the head judge will be notified and proper penalties will be assessed.
2.30. Players may not re-enter the playing field without the, permission of a field judge. Judges will instruct players as to when they may cut their markers off, upon all players doing, Judge will declare the field safe.
2.31. In the event of an emergency situation, the judge discovering the emergency will request that all judges immediately cause all action to stop. Game time will also be halted for the duration of the emergency.

2.32. Official game time will be kept by the head judge or a field judge appointed thereby. In the event that a game is to be, interrupted, because of a medical emergency, or otherwise, he will mark the time or cause the field judge appointed thereby to keep the official game time to mark the time. Once the condition causing the game stoppage has abated or been resolved all the live players and flags are placed in proper positions by the field judges, the head judge will restart the game and the time will begin by a ten second warning followed by the game on signal. Time will begin to run upon such restart.
2.33. Game stoppages will only occur in case of an emergency, dangerous weather conditions, other "acts of God" or a physical altercation on the game field.
2.34. Only the Advisory Board may declare the event stopped.
2.35. In the event of an emergency, dangerous weather conditions, other "acts of God" that would cause a MWPPA Tournament to be stopped before the completion of the event, the final results for each division will be taken from last completed round..... i.e. event stops in the middle of the 3rd round of the semi-finals, final scores would be taken from the last completed round (2nd round of the Semis). Should an event end during, but without completing the semi-finals, when the last completed round is determined, the top 2 scores from each bracket will be advanced as if going to the finals. From this point, final standings will be determined.

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3.0 GAME STRUCTURE - # of GAMES & SCORING
3.10. Amateur/Novice/Rookie/Beginner teams will play no less then 8 preliminary round games. Such games will be played against teams within the defined grouping of such team.
3.11. Teams will qualify for the semi-finals by finishing the preliminaries with one of the top 8 (12, 16, or 24 depending on divisional attendance) scores for that division.
3.12. Scoring for three-player games will be conducted on a 100 point system and will be awarded as follows:
(i) a team will be awarded 8 points for every player on the opposing team eliminated;
(ii) a team will be awarded 2 points for every player on such team not eliminated:
(iii) a team will be awarded 20 points if it pulls the center flag first; and
(iv) a team will be awarded 50 points when the flag is hung in its opponents' flag station.
3.13. Points are awarded at the conclusion of the game by the Head Judge.
3.14. Clerical or mathematical errors may be corrected at any time prior to the start of the next round.

3.2 FORFEITS
3.21. A forfeit will be declared for each game that a team fails to report in a timely fashion for its pregame chronographing, or for any game in which a team refuses to take the field, as long as its opponent is willing to and/or does take the field. In the event that both teams fail to show for a game or both teams are unwilling to take the field, both teams will have forfeited that game.
3.22. Any team which is scheduled to oppose a team that has forfeited a game will receive 90 points and the forfeited team will receive zero points for that game, unless the opposing team also forfeited that game, in which case both teams will receive zero points for that game.
3.23. Once a forfeit has been declared, the forfeited game will not be rescheduled and the score will stand.

3.5 TIE BREAKERS
3.51 In case of a tie score among teams:
(1) such tie will be broken first by head to head competition, winner of such contest advancing.
(2) if the tie cannot be broken by head-to-head competition in the current round, the tie will then be broken by head-to-head competition in the previous round, if any, with the tie going to the winner of such contest.
(3) if the tie cannot be broken by head-to-head competition in any round, the tie shall be broken by the total score in the preceding round, the tie would go to the team with the greatest score in the preceding round.
(4) if the tie cannot be broken by scores in the preceding round, the tie shall be broken by the eliminations scored against each team in the current round, with the tie going to the team with the least eliminations scored against them in the current round.
(5) if the tie cannot be broken by eliminations scored against each team in the current round, then the tie shall be broken by the eliminations scored against each team in the preceding round, with the tie going to the team with the fewest eliminations scored against them in the preceding round.
(6) if the tie cannot be broken by eliminations scored against each team in the preceding round, then the tie shall be broken by the eliminations scored against each team in the next preceding round, with the tie going to the team with the fewest eliminations scored against them in the next preceding round.
(7) if the tie cannot be broken by eliminations scored against each team in the next preceding round, then the tie shall be broken by rankings in the current season, entering the current event, with the tie going to the team with the highest ranking.
(8) if the tie cannot be broken by highest ranking, then the tie shall be broken by additional games between the tied teams, with the tie going to the team with the highest score in the first game that does not end in a tie score.
(9) ties that do not involve advancement to the next round, final podium standings, or end of season podium standings will not be broken. Teams involved in such a tie will receive equal seed points for equal finishes.

4.0 EQUIPMENT - CLOTHING
4.01. Players may wear any suitable apparel except sleeveless or tank-top style shirts. Short sleeves and shorts are not acceptable.
4.02. Players may not wear excessive amounts of clothing in order to create padding. Hoodies are not allowed.
4.03. Players must wear pants or shirts or jackets that fit well. Players may not wear excessively oversized clothing.
4.04. Players may not wear jackets and or pants, which are made out of highly absorbent material, such as felt or fleece, or of a highly padded or slick nature, such as nylon or rubber. If a player is found to be wearing such material then he will be required to obtain and wear suitable replacement clothing.
4.05. Players may wear a single pair of gloves, with or without full fingers. Gloves may be padded.
4.06. Players may wear nylon neck protection of a single layer.
4.07. Any decisions regarding clothing issues not covered in this section are left to the discretion of the Advisory Board.
4.1 PROTECTIVE GEAR
4.11. Players must wear goggles manufactured for use in paintball games in good repair and with lenses that are not damaged. These goggles must meet or exceed ASTM Standards.
4.12. Players must wear full-face protection as it comes from the manufacturer in its original form.
4.13. Players must wear ear protection that is part of the goggle system that was made by the manufacturer for that goggle system.
4.14. Players may wear forearm and elbow protection (1 per arm), provided that the padding on such protection has not been modified from the manufacturer’s original form. Such protection may be worn over or under clothing.
4.15. Players may wear shin and knee protection, provided that the padding has not been modified for the manufactures original form. Such protection may be worn over or under clothing.
4.16. Male players may wear groin protection and female players may wear breast protection.

4.2 MARKERS
4.21. Players may use a single, 68 caliber, pump or semi automatic paintball marker, which consists of a single barrel and a single trigger.
4.22. A marker covered in whole or in part by a material of an absorbent or padded nature is illegal.
4.23. All markers with any form of external velocity adjusters must be modified in such a way that the velocity adjuster is not readily accessible during the course of the game. Depending upon make or model of the markers, some may require beaver tails and / or tournament caps or may require multiple tournament caps. All regulators require tournament caps such that they can not be adjusted without a tool with the gun gassed or degassed.
4.24. Full autos are not allowed.
4.25. Due to the number of different ways that markers can be made to be illegal and the safety issues these illegal guns create, the MWPPA will be a non-ramping event. It will be uncapped semi-auto. All markers are subject to inspection prior to each game at all MWPPA events at all MWPPA Tournaments. A marker will be deemed legal once it passes the following criteria:
TEST 1 - Electronic Bounce - Markers will be tested for electronic bounce by shooting the marker. The marker trigger will be firmly pulled 3 consecutive times. During these 3 pulls, the marker may only fire 3 shots. Any marker that produces more than 3 shots on the 3 pulls will be
deemed to have electronic bounce.
TEST 2 - “Runaway Guns” - All markers will be checked for “runaway” triggers. The marker will be fired rapidly. The testing judge, while rapidly firing the marker will suddenly cease to pull the trigger. Any marker that continues to fire while the trigger is NOT being pulled will be deemed to be a “Runaway Gun” and will not be allowed on the field.
TEST 3 - Marker Chronographing - All markers will be chronographed prior to going onto the field. The maximum muzzle velocity allowed will be 275 feet per second. Markers will be tested by firing over RADARCHRON paintball chronographs. For those that can’t read between the lines – the MWPPA does not allow PSP style ramping. Marker rate of fire is uncapped
Any player that switches a marker off after a field judge has requested to examine it will receive an automatic 60 point penalty.

4.26. Gun barrels may be equipped with porting, slots, rifling, but may not have a sound suppresser attached or integral to the construction of the barrel. Only one barrel will be allowed on the field.
4.27. Magazines may use gravity feed, or force feed style loaders/feed systems.
4.28. Players may wear a remote tank hook-up. The remote line may not be worn underneath clothing.
4.29. Players may not use cloth, neoprene, or other material to cover the paint loaders on the marker. Cloth and neoprene tanks covers will be allowed on nitrogen and HPA tanks.
4.30. Barrel condoms are required at all times except on the field or the target range. Squeegees or old fashioned barrel plugs do not qualify as a barrel blocking device. Removing the barrel from the marker does NOT equate to having a barrel blocking device on the barrel while the barrel is attached to the marker. Any player caught in violation of this rule will immediately cause his team to receive a 10 point penalty.

4.4 OTHER EQUIPMENT
4.41. Players may carry any number of pouches, clips or loaders.
4.42. Vests and pouches may not be constructed in such a fashion that they constitute padding.
4.43. Players may carry multiple squeegees and or swabs.
4.44. Two live players may exchange equipment.
4.45. Players who are eliminated must exit the field with all equipment they were carrying when they were eliminated.
4.46. Players must carry all paint, gas and equipment to be used during the course of the game on their person at the start of the game.

4.5 PROHIBITED EQUIPMENT
4.51. Prohibited equipment includes listening devices, communication devices and any form of electronic surveillance device, incendiary devices, smoke producing devices, barrels that curve the trajectory of paintballs in a manner designed to shoot around bunkers (Apex Elite), paint which is toxic and not biodegradable and paint which has a shell, fill or both altered or augmented in any way.
4.52. Anything not specified in Sections 4.0 through 4.52, inclusive as permitted shall be prohibited unless allowed by the ultimate judge.
4.6 PROTECTED COLORS
4.61. Players shall be prohibited from wearing WHITE colored clothing at all three man indoor MWPPA events.
5.0 ELIMINATIONS
5.01. A player is eliminated if a paintball shot by a live member of the opposing team or such player’s team strikes that player or anything he is wearing or carrying and such paintball breaks upon the object struck. If the paintball strikes the player or anything he is wearing or carrying but does not break and leave a mark, such player is not eliminated. If a player is hit and marked by a paintball shot by an eliminated member of the opposing team or such player’s team, such player is not eliminated. If a paintball strikes another object first and breaks upon that object before marking a player or anything he is wearing or carrying, such player is not eliminated. If a judge does not see a paintball shot by a live member of the opposing team or a player’s team strike that player or another object, but that player has paint on himself or anything he is wearing or carrying that resembles a hit, such player may be eliminated by such judge.
If two opposing players are hit and marked, as provided in this Section: 5.01, simultaneously, or if the judges cannot determine which player was hit and marked first, both players will be eliminated. Judges may wipe splatter or non valid hits off a player at the time they are inspected. If a judge observes a direct hit that marks a player, such player will be eliminated regardless of the size of the paint splat.
5.02. Players will be eliminated if any part of their bodies or anything that they are wearing or carrying breaks the plane separating the field from the out-of-bounds area. Such elimination will take place immediately upon the breaking of such plane. Judges, in their discretion, may warn players, once and only once, if they are getting too close to the boundary line of the field.
5.03. Players that are found with tools or other prohibited equipment on the field or those working on their markers will be immediately eliminated.
5.04. Players that separate from any piece of equipment or clothing that they brought onto the game field by more than 5 feet, except squeegees, rags, or pods used in holding paintballs will be immediately eliminated.
5.05. Players that take action which would cause members of the opposing team to reasonably believe that such players have been eliminated, including but not limited to calling himself out or hit, hiding the armbands, holding the markers in positions above the shoulders, placing objects
in the barrels of the markers and carrying them in view of members of the opposing teams or walking in groups of eliminated players, will be eliminated. Dead man walks will be a one for one for one.
5.06. Players whose markers shoot on the field in excess of 275 feet per second, but under 280 fps will be eliminated. If the hot marker is discovered after the conclusion of the game, the penalty will be 12 points off of the offending team’s score.
5.06.1.Players whose markers shoot on the field in excess of 280 feet per second, but under 290 fps will result in a one for one penalty. If the hot marker is discovered after the conclusion of the game, the penalty will be 24 points off of the offending team’s score.
5.06.2.Players whose markers shoot on the field in excess of 290 feet per second, but under 300 fps will result in a two for one penalty. If the hot marker is discovered after the conclusion of the game, the penalty will be 36 points off of the offending team’s score.
5.06.3. Players whose markers shoot on the field in excess of 300 feet per second will result in a three for one penalty. The offending player will be disqualified and suspended from the event for a period of six (6) games. If the hot marker is discovered after the conclusion of the game, the penalty will be 75 points off of the offending team’s score and the offending player will be disqualified and suspended from the event for a period of six (6) games.
5.07. Players who appear to be eliminated will be ruled to be eliminated. Deadman walks are illegal; and will be considered a one for one.
5.08. Players may be eliminated for false starts or leaving the starting station before the signal to "GO" or start.
5.1 ELIMINATIONS - OBVIOUS HITS
5.11. Obvious hits are those which impact and break on easily observable places on the body or equipment being carried or those that have been felt by the player. A judge will determine whether a player felt a hit by where that paintball impacted his body and whether he reacted upon being hit.
5.12. Players who are hit in an obvious location are expected to immediately signal their elimination by announcing "HIT" or "OUT" at the time of such elimination’s.
5.13. Players are to hold the marker in the air above the head and exit the field immediately by the most direct route or upon the instructions of a field judge, if given, and enter the deadbox
5.14. Players who are hit in obvious locations which are easily verifiable by such players may not call for a paintcheck. Calling for a paintcheck under such circumstances constitutes continuing to play on.
5.15. Players who are in motion while hit in obvious locations which are easily verifiable will immediately turn their motion away from the opposition, and stop.
5.16. Players with obvious hits in areas which are not easily verifiable, such as the back, may continue to play, but must immediately call on a teammate who can easily verify whether or not the paintball broke to indicate whether or not such player was eliminated. The teammate must
respond immediately, and if the hit player was eliminated, he must cease play, signal his elimination and exit the field pursuant to the provisions of the rules. Failure to call on such teammate for verification or failure of such teammate to respond immediately constitutes playing on by the hit player. If no such teammate is available for verification, such player may continue to play, but must immediately call for a paintcheck by a field judge. Failure to call for such a paintcheck immediately will constitute playing on by such player.
5.2 ELIMINATIONS - UNOBVIOUS HITS
5.21. Un-obvious hits are those which impact and break on players or equipment in those areas defined as being not easily observable and those which players receiving the same give no indication of knowledge of them having occurred.
5.22. Players with un-obvious hits will be eliminated but will not be penalized.
5.23. Should a player with an un-obvious hit become aware, through his own actions or through information provided by teammates that he has been validly marked, such hit at such time shall then be deemed to constitute and shall constitute an obvious hit.
6.0 PAINTCHECKS
6.01. Paintchecks are performed by judges for the purpose of determining if a paintball has broken on and marked a player.
6.02. Paintchecks are performed by a judge when the judge has observed a player taking fire, when fire is directed into an area occupied by a player that the judge cannot directly observe, when the physical location that a paintball may have broken on is not visible to the judge, or when the judge is directed to do so by another judge.
6.03. Judges may, but are under no obligation to, make a paintcheck after a player has requested one.
6.1 NEUTRALITY
6.11. Judges will make every effort to perform a paintcheck without calling a player neutral. However, a judge, at his discretion, may declare a player neutral.
6.12. No flag carrier will ever be stopped and declared neutral for the purposes of performing paintcheck.
6.13. A judge calling a player neutral will indicate the same to all players on the field by standing over the player, shouting, "Neutral." and holding his arms above his head or waiving them.
6.14. A player declared neutral cannot be eliminated from the game or moved on, either by opposing team members or his own teammates, while in the state of neutrality.
6.15. A judge may move a neutral player's equipment and or request that such player expose additional areas for examination.
6.16. Players not declared neutral may be eliminated while being checked.

7.0 FLAGS - FLAG CARRIERS
7.01. Players carrying flags must carry them in full view. Players cannot attempt to hide or disguise the flag in any way.
7.02. Flags may be passed from live players to live players.
7.03. A player eliminated while in possession of the flag will hang the flag on the nearest bunker in the area in which he was eliminated and then proceed to the deadbox.
7.04 If the flag carrier makes the mistake of hanging the game flag at his own starting station, flag hang points will be awarded to that games opponent.

[MWPPA]

8.0 PENALTIES - PLAYING ON
8.01. Playing on entails continuing to act as a player in the game after being eliminated. Playing on includes, but is not limited to;
A) Continuing to fire or otherwise engage the Opposition,
B) continuing to move, except with respect to exiting the field by the most direct route or at the direction of a judge,
C) talking, signaling or otherwise communicating, either to a judge, opposing players, or teammates, except that a player may say, "I’m hit." or, "Out." or something to that effect once,
D) impeding the progress of opposition players or a judge,
E) hampering a judge in making a paintcheck or a call,
F) discharging or degassing the marker or providing teammates with
paintballs or equipment.
The penalty for playing on is the removal of a teammate in a one-for-one call, unless, in the judges opinion, such playing on has materially influenced the course of the game, giving the offending player's team an advantage, in which case the penalty for playing on is the removal of two teammates in a two-for-one call.

8.1 WIPING
8.11. Wiping is defined as the active and deliberate removal of paint by a player in order to avoid an elimination or avoid a judge’s call.
8.12. Wiping is penalized by the immediate removal of the player from the game and the simultaneous removal of two additional players from the same team.
8.2 FREIGHT TRAINING
8.21. Freight training is the act of utilizing multiple players who move and act in such a manner so that the lead players after being marked and eliminated impede or prevent the timely elimination of other players in the train.
8.22. Judges will allow a freight train to continue, but will remove one player for each instance of continuing to play by any of the freight-training players. When the freight train stops, the players who took multiple hits will also be removed from play.

8.3 INTERFERENCE
8.31. Spectators may be allowed to observe games and the activities on a field and may not:
i. issue instructions to players on the field.
ii. make comments about play which are likely to be heard by players on the field,
8.31.1Spectators may not be allowed to
i. have guns in their possession, or
ii. counter coach.
8.32. Team members and associates of the competing teams who interfere with the play of that game will immediately receive a penalty as if a player "played on" on the field and will result in the removal of one or more players from the associated team.

8.4 ASSESSMENT OF PENALTIES
8.41. Judges must assess the penalty prescribed for playing on or wiping.
8.42. Only Head judges may assess penalties that remove points earned on the field.
8.43. Judges will eliminate players for the following infractions:
(1) Unsportsmanlike conduct.
(2) Intentionally shooting at refs.
(3) The use of inappropriate language.
(4) A player going out of bounds or moving the boundary tape.
(5) A player hit in an unobvious location.
(6) A player having tools on the field.
(7) Player fails to tag up with the starting station after a false start.
(8) Failure to wear goggles.
(9) Malicious intent.
(10) Shooting in excess of 275 FPS, but under 280 FPS
(11) Wearing unapproved or altered face/ear protection.
(12) Excessive padding or layers of clothing.

8.44. Assessment of the one-for-one rule (the removal of the player committing the infraction, and a teammate) will take place for the following infractions:
(1) A player having tools on the field
(2) Freight training, applied for each infraction.
(3) Continuing to play, hit in an obvious location.
(4) Reentering the field after elimination.
(5) Interference during the course of a game by a person affiliated with the team, not playing in the game.
(6) Playing on after being eliminated. Altering the course of the game.
(7) Engaging in physical contact with another person on the field in a hostile manner.
(8) First Offence for marker violations.
(9) Malicious intent
(10) Shooting in excess of 280 FPS, but under 290 FPS
8.45. Assessment of the two-for-one rule (the removal of the player committing the infraction and two teammates) will take place for the following infractions:
(1) Continuing to play, hit in an obvious location, which results in an alteration of the course of the game.
(2) Use of a marker, firing in a prohibited mode.
(3) Shooting in excess of 290 FPS, but under 300 FPS
(4) Wiping
(5) Shooting after acknowledging your elimination or from the dead box.
(6) Second Offence of marker violations.
8.46. Assessment of 75 points will take place for the following infractions:
(4) Shooting in excess of 325 FPS

8.5 ADDITIONAL PENALTIES
8.51. A Head judge may assess additional one-for-one penalties during the game or successive 10 point penalties off of the field for the following infractions:
(1) Each time a player fails to obey a judge's instructions.
8.52. If a penalty is called that results in the removal of the last player from a team, the other team will be awarded the flag hang automatically.
8.53. Assessments of one-for-one, two-for-one penalties when no live players are left will result in the following penalty points being assessed against the offending team:
(1) 12 point penalty in lieu of a one-for-one penalty.
(2) 24 point penalty in lieu of a two-for-one penalty.
8.54. A player prohibited from a playing on a team, because his name appears on another team’s roster, or otherwise will cause the forfeiture of all the games of such team.
8.55. Any team that intentionally gives up points to its opponent will be disqualified from the tournament and all members of the team playing at the time of the infraction shall be suspended for life from playing in any sanctioned MWPPA event.
8.56. Any team that plots with opponents to set scores will be disqualified from the tournament and all members of the team playing at the time of the infraction shall be suspended for life from playing in any sanctioned MWPPA event.
8.57. Referee's calls during a game will stand and cannot be changed after a game except in extreme situations with the Ultimate Judge's approval.
8.58. Any player who intentionally slams/spikes a marker will be disqualified for the remainder of the event; and suspended for one year; and will be accessed a 50 point penalty. The offending player's team will finish that event playing short-handed with only 2 players on the field, regardless of the number of players on their team roster. Any player who commits a second offense of slamming/spiking a marker will be disqualified for the remainder of the season.
8.59. Any player who commits their third offence for marker violations will cause his team to have all points amassed up to the point of such discovery removed and such player will no longer be allowed to continue to participate in the Tournament.
8.60. Any player that switches a marker off after a field judge has requested to examine it will receive an automatic 60 point penalty.
8.61. Physical contact (non-hostile) between competing players results in the elimination of both players; and will be suspended for one year.
8.62. Any player that fails to use a barrel condom or other approved barrel blocking device, will cause his team to be penalized 10 points upon discovery.

9.0 MISCELLANEOUS - DECORUM
9.01. Teams and players thereon attending an MWPPA sanctioned tournament shall refrain from wearing or otherwise displaying offensive pictures, words or logos at the site where the tournament is taking place. Teams and players thereon attending an MWPPA sanctioned tournament shall refrain from engaging in any conduct that would bring the MWPPA, the tournament, the promoter, the hosting site, or any sponsor into disrepute, including, but not limited to;
• the trashing of hotel rooms,
• the discharge of loaded markers in un-goggled trafficked areas,
• the willful destruction of private property,
• engaging in physical altercations, except in defense of one’s person against an unprovoked aggressor,
• or the commission of a criminal act.

9.03. All teams shall adhere to the administrative rules and regulations promulgated by the promoter of the tournament with respect thereto.
9.04. All teams shall police and dispose of all trash generated thereby within the parking area, the staging area and/or the compound
9.05. Any person or team that fails to adhere to the rules and regulations specified in this Section 9.0 shall be prohibited from competing in an MWPPA sanctioned event for a period of one year from the date of the infraction, the MWPPA reserves the right to extend any suspension.

[MWPPA]

We will not be posting the field layout prior to the event.

[rockindapump]

amazing prize pack:applaus:

[pb4life]

what if there is only a rookie division?

[MWPPA]

There will be 5 teams in the Beginner

[rockindapump]

then possibly one of each per person?

[John T]

On Pbnation you have a beginner as a player with no national tournament experience and one year or less of tournament experience. (In your other thread on here I thought I saw the same thing which may have been edited)

On here you say one year or less playing experience. This is a pretty big difference so, which is it?

-John

[Kostohris]

Awesome prizes!, would prefer more top heavy (more for 1st and 2nd rather than such great prizes for lower placing), but im NOT complaining!

[pb4life]

On Pbnation you have a beginner as a player with no national tournament experience and one year or less of tournament experience. (In your other thread on here I thought I saw the same thing which may have been edited)

On here you say one year or less playing experience. This is a pretty big difference so, which is it?

-John
MWPPA first said" Beginner classification- No national tournament experience and one year or less of tournament experience." now they changed it to
" 1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet any of the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, or
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time."
and your right that is a huge difference. Thats why it's dumb to say one thing and then say another later after people have started makeing plans to play in a division only to have the rules changes so you can't play in that division.

[krehas]

What will be the Start time on Sat?

[JT-ANNANDALEPAINTBALL]

It was a error and was been changed a short time after being posted. We were not aware of the one on nation, but it has been changed. The OFFICIAL RULES are posted, and the classification is in there


Doors open at 8 captains meeting at 845 games at 9

[rockindapump]

It was a error and was been changed a short time after being posted. We were not aware of the one on nation, but it has been changed. The OFFICIAL RULES are posted, and the classification is in there


Doors open at 8 captains meeting at 845 games at 9

will co captains be allowed

[Kostohris]

will co captains be allowed

lol :applaus:

[rockindapump]

^^^^^ you got a problem ill be more than willing to take it up with you

[djthen]

For a captains meeting really anyone can go, but it is normal to have it be only one member of each team. Captains meetings really are nothing special anyway, its generally a quick run down of the rules. One player is all you really need at it. I can't say anything on behalf of the MWPPA, but I think your best bet would be to keep it down to one player at the meeting as things generally run smoother and quicker at the meetings with less players at them.

[Kostohris]

^^^^^ you got a problem ill be more than willing to take it up with you

haha, I'm not like that... you can find someone else to fight with... have fun!;)

[rockindapump]

haha, I'm not like that... you can find someone else to fight with... have fun!;)

i will when i see you whiping my paint off your face:whoo::prop::biggrin:

[Kostohris]

:xfingers:

[rockindapump]

;);););) Sinister Ftmfw

[robot nuts]

you 2 wanna not be immature o and im pretty shure ur gonna be wiping my paint off ur face

[rockindapump]

some ones a little cocky its all good humor cocky sobs like you piss me off

[MWPPA]

Make sure you get your entry in by tonight to take advantage of the $60 a case of paint.

[pb4life]

we have until 11:59 pm right?

[pb4life]

looks like my team isn't going to make it.

[robot nuts]

rockindapimp wat team u playin for

[rockindapump]

sinister you?

[robot nuts]

nice but yea magnum

[rockindapump]

magnm prodigies or the actual team magnum and if so do you know collin booth

[robot nuts]

magnum protegies is real magnum were all kids from the real magnum like patrick mariakis, erik vandanoven, nick guthmiller we just wanted a diff name for this tourney were the only magnum team going to this event collin lol he was on magnum for a week

[rockindapump]

do you remember what he was shooting he says he shot a dmc and i called mad shens on him playing tournies with you guys but noone believed me

[robot nuts]

he never played tourneys with us and dmc suck

[rockindapump]

i knew i should have called shens on him

[paintballer88807]

hello, do you have a set time for the tournament to start on either day? i need to know if i need to take off work or not.

thanks

[rockindapump]

doors open at 8 captains meeting at 8:45 game play starts at 9

[paintballer88807]

doors open at 8 captains meeting at 8:45 game play starts at 9


8AM or PM? i know AA has had some tourneys at night and some very early.

[rockindapump]

am it says a few posts up

[robot nuts]

erik just take off work and are we staying the night at ur house btw this is nick

[Cook]

So is the Mwppa going to have just a 3 man tournament series this year instead of a 5man? It's getting kinda late and am wondering if this is the route that they are going to take? Trying to figure out what tourney series the team is going to play this year. thx

[paintballer88807]

So is the Mwppa going to have just a 3 man tournament series this year instead of a 5man? It's getting kinda late and am wondering if this is the route that they are going to take? Trying to figure out what tourney series the team is going to play this year. thx

i was thinking that the 3 man was replacing the AYT and that they were still going to have 5 man. but I really don't know.

[pb4life]

the three man will only happen once this year. the rest will be five man.

[MWPPA]

So is the Mwppa going to have just a 3 man tournament series this year instead of a 5man? It's getting kinda late and am wondering if this is the route that they are going to take? Trying to figure out what tourney series the team is going to play this year. thx

No, this summer the MWPPA is going to be five man ramping as it was last year. We are working on getting all the rules, prizes, hotels, directions, scores and much more all put on the web site. We can assure you it will be another great summer.


Our dates for the MWPPA five man are as follows,
May 31 and June 1 @ Sherburne County Fairgrounds-Confirmed date and location
July 19 and 20 @ Sherburne County Fairgrounds-Unconfirmed date and location. (Same time as Sherburne County Fair :) )
August 23 and 24 @ Sherburne County Fairgrounds-Confirmed date and location

[MWPPA]

Make sure to be signed up by the 26th!

[Randy Norcross]

A tournament during the Sherburne County fair? I would arrange a different date or location. Sherburne County fair is extremely popular, crowd control and parking will be an issue.

The same weekend, and the same complex may be holding the State Baseball and Softball championship weekend. Hundreds more people.

I would really hate to see a situation where one paintball leaves the area and hits a car, or a child and causes a situation. A situation that could be avoided.

I have run and been the site director for the baseball tournaments there. Trust me, we need to give these events space. Coaches and parents (losing teams) are out there just looking for something to complain about. Don't let it be the paintball tournament.

Respectfully,

Randy Norcross

[Kostohris]

A tournament during the Sherburne County fair? I would arrange a different date or location. Sherburne County fair is extremely popular, crowd control and parking will be an issue.

The same weekend, and the same complex may be holding the State Baseball and Softball championship weekend. Hundreds more people.

I would really hate to see a situation where one paintball leaves the area and hits a car, or a child and causes a situation. A situation that could be avoided.

I have run and been the site director for the baseball tournaments there. Trust me, we need to give these events space. Coaches and parents (losing teams) are out there just looking for something to complain about. Don't let it be the paintball tournament.

Respectfully,

Randy Norcross


Thats really too bad, you're very right, but I hadn't thought of that aspect of the hundreds of other people (non-paintball related) around, I was just glad it would be getting a lot of publicity and so many people would see it as just another sport. But I completely see where your coming from and it's probably not worth that risk for public acceptance of the sport.

But still cool to think about...

Chris

[ajustin]

I know registration starts at 8, but can you get in the building earlier or do we just have to wait in the parking lot? Also, does anyone know what times the games will start on Sunday?

[pbpancho]

A tournament during the Sherburne County fair? I would arrange a different date or location. Sherburne County fair is extremely popular, crowd control and parking will be an issue.

The same weekend, and the same complex may be holding the State Baseball and Softball championship weekend. Hundreds more people.

I would really hate to see a situation where one paintball leaves the area and hits a car, or a child and causes a situation. A situation that could be avoided.

I have run and been the site director for the baseball tournaments there. Trust me, we need to give these events space. Coaches and parents (losing teams) are out there just looking for something to complain about. Don't let it be the paintball tournament.

Respectfully,

Randy Norcross

For what its worth Randy, the NLPL ran an event during a county fair in WI, and as far as I remember there were not any issues, and the netting was not nearly as nice as the stuff the MWPPA uses. I agree we should be aware of the possibility of problems, but its pretty cool exposure for the game.

[deadeye52]

If you guys let the 16th best college team in the nation play in the same division as people who are new to the tourney scene i will never look at the MWPPA with the same respect as I used to. That just doesn't make sense.

[rockindapump]

i agree and people who play with magnum even tho they are ranked rookie but still practise with magnum. i dont see how that is fair

[Kostohris]

anyone can win, its 3man... this is a great event guys, stop nitpicking, please.

Chris

[pbpancho]

If you guys let the 16th best college team in the nation play in the same division as people who are new to the tourney scene i will never look at the MWPPA with the same respect as I used to. That just doesn't make sense.

The vast vast majority of the U of M players are VERY new to tournament paintball from what I have seen. Its not unreasonable at all for them to play beginner. If they have played less than a year then they can play. Also, keep in mind that the guys who played on the U of M squad that has gotten them the #16 ranking have much more experience and won't be playing beginner.


Furthermore, no offense to the college teams, I love em, but being ranked #16 in the country really doesn't line up with non-college rankings at all. Its not like they are equivalent to the 16th best NPPL or PSP team at all.


Now who doesn't make sense?

[xJTeigs10]

The vast vast majority of the U of M players are VERY new to tournament paintball from what I have seen. Its not unreasonable at all for them to play beginner. If they have played less than a year then they can play. Also, keep in mind that the guys who played on the U of M squad that has gotten them the #16 ranking have much more experience and won't be playing beginner.


Furthermore, no offense to the college teams, I love em, but being ranked #16 in the country really doesn't line up with non-college rankings at all. Its not like they are equivalent to the 16th best NPPL or PSP team at all.


Now who doesn't make sense?

I play for Moorhead State and have played against several UofM paintball teams, and I agree with Matt. The only thing that the UofM paintball team that is #16 in the country and the UofM paintball team that is playing the MWPPA is the name of the team. I believe UofM had something like 4 teams at a tournament earlier this year, with that many people you are going to have a wide range of talent and experience. If the UofM team that is playing beginner falls under the category of beginner as the MWPPA defines it, I say its legit.

As BFK once said MWPPA>NCPA. Being number #16 in the NCPA is not that big of a deal (U of M I love you guys, no disrespect. You guys kick ***. but I think most people will agree with me on that).

JMO

[xJTeigs10]

A tournament during the Sherburne County fair? I would arrange a different date or location. Sherburne County fair is extremely popular, crowd control and parking will be an issue.

The same weekend, and the same complex may be holding the State Baseball and Softball championship weekend. Hundreds more people.

I would really hate to see a situation where one paintball leaves the area and hits a car, or a child and causes a situation. A situation that could be avoided.

I have run and been the site director for the baseball tournaments there. Trust me, we need to give these events space. Coaches and parents (losing teams) are out there just looking for something to complain about. Don't let it be the paintball tournament.

Respectfully,

Randy Norcross

I share some of the concerns that Randy has, it would be AWFUL for a ball to bounce off of a bunker and over the netting and hurt someone. But I also think that it would be really cool to get that extra public attention by holding it during the fair. IDK what kind of equipment is available to the MWPPA but maybe they could hang netting over the top of the field as well?? That might not be feasible, but its just a thought.

Also, perhaps put up signs around the netting warning people that paintballs can bounce over the netting, and that the safest place to stand is actually right next to the netting as apposed to 30-45 feet behind the netting.

[triggerhappyshawn]

come on lets see some more teams register!!!! how about instead of talking about paintball on the internet you play! lol

[MWPPA]

Frist off the fair asked us to hold a Tournament at the fair
also at the start of the fair we will be having open play for fair attendees
a chance to play paintball. We are trying to build the sport.

Second your ranking is set by the APPA on what you have played in the past
not by who you play with. Air Assault has D-4 or rookie players that practice
with D-2 players and have practiced Avalanche they are still ranked rookie D-4 and D-2
thats the way it is.

remember: beginner is one year or less playing experience no tournament experience

rookie: ranked D-4 within the PSP or have not beed rostered on a NPPL divsional 7-man

we track players very close so all have a chance to win

as far as the UofM team if they have been playing less then a year and no touranment experience they can play beginner YES WE CAN TRACK THIS

[ajustin]

Thanks for setting everything straight, now we can concentrate on more important things other than why this person gets to play in this division wha, wha, wha...:whoo: Since my last post got overlooked, does anyone know if we can get into AA before registration at 8? Also, what time will games start on Sunday? Oh yeah, and I think having the event during the fair is a great idea, the safety concerns should be the same as any other tournament held there. You still have spectators as well as other players around the netting. If it was that dangerous, how would it become such a popular venue for the nppl, psp, ect...?

[Kostohris]

Thanks for setting everything straight, now we can concentrate on more important things other than why this person gets to play in this division wha, wha, wha...:whoo: Since my last post got overlooked, does anyone know if we can get into AA before registration at 8? Also, what time will games start on Sunday? Oh yeah, and I think having the event during the fair is a great idea, the safety concerns should be the same as any other tournament held there. You still have spectators as well as other players around the netting. If it was that dangerous, how would it become such a popular venue for the nppl, psp, ect...?

well people that go to a psp or nppl event might expect stray paintballs or thing of that nature, random people who kno nothing about the sport will likely not expect anything like taht, and there is always stray balls, thats all we were saying, but if they want it there, YAY!

Chris

[John T]

Our roster is set. Does anyone want to complain anymore?

Also, no offense taken to the 16th in the NCPA not meaning anything. That number is only good for publicity it seems.

[MWPPA]

??????????????????????????????????????????

OK what don't you get, if you fall in to this criteria you can play the Beginner DIV
if you don't you play the Rookie or above

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet any of the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, or
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, come on read the rules

MWPPA

[JT-ANNANDALEPAINTBALL]

Thanks for setting everything straight, now we can concentrate on more important things other than why this person gets to play in this division wha, wha, wha...:whoo: Since my last post got overlooked, does anyone know if we can get into AA before registration at 8? Also, what time will games start on Sunday? Oh yeah, and I think having the event during the fair is a great idea, the safety concerns should be the same as any other tournament held there. You still have spectators as well as other players around the netting. If it was that dangerous, how would it become such a popular venue for the nppl, psp, ect...?


No Doors open at 8 and registration begins at the same time. Doors, captains meeting and games will all start on the same time all weekend long.

Trust us the safety concerns are being looked into, due to the volume of unaware visitors. We understand that putting signs up could help, but will not answer the problem and as we posted earlier the Fairgrounds did ask us to be in attendance for the weekend. We see this as a very good thing for the sport, by starting the weekend off by letting people try paintball and see what it is like, and then let them see the intense action that the tournament scene is like.


Just my opinion---This is something that the MWPPA, field owners, paintball players need to rally behind in my opinion to promote future paintball players to our great sport. ---Again just my opinion.

[robot nuts]

rockin da pimp who cares who plays for who just cuz were playing and play for magnum doesnt meen well win poeple have off day and the ball is pretty much up for grabs its a 3 man just play smart its all on every one watching everyone on ur team in order for you to do good you have to feel safe with the poeple your playing with so if you think you and your team arnt good then your not thinking positive and your gonna do bad if you think positive yo wont have any stress on you just play the game dont let the game play you

[John T]

??????????????????????????????????????????

OK what don't you get, if you fall in to this criteria you can play the Beginner DIV
if you don't you play the Rookie or above

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet any of the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, or
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, come on read the rules

MWPPA

OK, if these are the official rules then my players are fine.

1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet any of the following criteria:

a) One year or less of playing experience, or
b) No tournament experience.

My players meet requirement 1.71 A. Which is all they need to do. That "any" and "or" in rule 1.71 make all the difference.

I don't want to sound like a jerk but...read your own rules.

I'm not trying to screw anyone over. I want our new guys to play more tournaments and so do they. I realize that the MWPPA has the ability to change player classification but If I originally would have named the team something else would anyone care? I doubt it. All of the players rostered have been playing for less than 1 year. Two out of three of them started just playing this fall when school started and the other guy started last summer.

My players are getting emails saying they are ineligible to play. As of now, they are eligible by the rules you've stated.

I feel like your giving my the run around here trying to keep the U of M team from competing. I have a lot of respect for the MWPPA and the people that run it but this is ridiculous.

[MWPPA]

We are not picking on any team or players. The MWPPA was created to run good, fun, FAIR events. The creation of the beginner division was to get young new kids into the sport; yes we are talking 12,13,14,15 year olds that have just entered the sport of paintball. The same ones that have expressed being afraid to play tournaments because of getting beat up. That was our intentions with creating this division. We strongly encourage teams and players to understand this play on words that some have found, and to meet the new criteria we have in place. We would like to thank our players for finding this play on words and pointing it out.

Teams that are currently signed up for any division as of 2/19/08 at 2:45 p.m. will not be forced to move up in a division and players will be allowed to play that are currently rostered within those divisions. However all new teams and players will need to meet the following criteria,

1.4 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION –Amateur
1.41. A player will be considered AMATEUR if they meet the following criteria:
a) If the player is ranked Division 2 X-Ball or PSP, or
b) If the player is ranked Division 2 within the NPPL, or
c) If the player has been recognized by PSP or NPPL as a Division 2 player, or
d) If the player has been rostered on a Amateur/Open MWPPA team, or
1.42. A player will be considered Amateur if they are currently rostered on a Amateur team, or if they do not qualify for the Novice Division.
1.43. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.
1.44. No Pro ranked players allowed.

1.5 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION - Novice

1.51. A player will be considered NOVICE if they meet the following criteria:
a) If the player is ranked Division 3 X-Ball or PSP, or
b) If the player is ranked Division 3 within the NPPL, or
c) If the player has been recognized by PSP or NPPL as a Division 3 player, or
d) If the player has been rostered on a Novice MWPPA team, or
1.52. A player will be considered NOVICE if they are currently rostered on a Novice team, or if they do not qualify for the Rookie Division.
1.53. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

1.6 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION - Rookie
1.61. A player will be considered ROOKIE if they meet the following
criteria:
a) If the player is ranked Division 4 within the PSP, or
b) If the player has not been rostered on an NPPL Divisional 7-Man roster.
1.62. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, and
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

[Dark_Knight]

I would think your guys would want more experience in a class more their own. But if they are comfortable beating up on practically newbies to the tournament scene then. Just pray that you don't get beat out by one of the other teams. :xfingers: There is no reason you should get anything less than 1st

Personally I like a little more of a challenge that is going to help me become more of a better player. If you want a walk in a park like this just go shoot new people at some open play games somewhere, its cheaper. :twocents:

[John T]

I like that you think everyone from the U of M is good at paintball.

Seriously though, back off, I'm not a punching bag.

I'm done trying to justify what I'm doing. The more I have to defend myself the more I have to take stabs at the MWPPA. It's bad for them and bad for me.

[paintballer88807]

didn't 4 years or more of tournament play automatically make you an AM? or did the rankings just change when the rook and beginner divisions where added? i know when i first started seeing the rookie division it was supposed to just be your first year of tournament play because the novice division was getting sandbagged to bad and new players had problems placing in tourneys. also how can APPA track NPPL rankings? you could be playing pro in the NPPL and now be considered a beginner according to APPA. I'm not saying the APPA system doesn't work but when people think your APPA ranking is what you are really ranked it can create some problems. i think its a great way of tracking players but its not something that provides accurate information.

[ajustin]

Can I make a suggestion? This wouldn't pertain to this upcoming tourney, but, would it be a bad idea to separate division rankings by the number of tournaments played in instead of how high of a division ranking tournament you've played in. To me this would make a little more scense and probably even out the playing field for everyone. Plus there would probably be more teams for the higher divisions. That way players are divided by experience instead of what tournaments they've played in. This will be my first mwppa tourney so I'm trying not to be too quick to judge their methods. That's just my personal opinion on what I think might work a little better.

[Kostohris]

I like that you think everyone from the U of M is good at paintball.

Seriously though, back off, I'm not a punching bag.

I'm done trying to justify what I'm doing. The more I have to defend myself the more I have to take stabs at the MWPPA. It's bad for them and bad for me.



Basically i think what he (MWPPA) is trying to say is just that if they aren't still shooting tippmans or spyders still they aren't allowed. haha, now you know what i mean dont take that all literally. he just means BRAND SPANKIN new. just trying to help, dont rip my head off :) but its all good, im sure everyone will have fun no matter what happens or who plays who or who wins what.

Good Luck to all!

Chris

[Kave]

Teams that are currently signed up for any division as of 2/19/08 at 2:45 p.m. will not be forced to move up in a division and players will be allowed to play that are currently rostered within those divisions. However all new teams and players will need to meet the following criteria,


To me this dosent seem fair for anyone not currently signed up. Some teams simply have not added players to their roster and they will now not be able to play the division that their teammates want to play?

In my opinion the MWPPA should either move teams up/down to meet the new criteria or allow the previous criteria to stand for this event.

That is the only wait to be fair to everyone attending.

[MWPPA]

To me this dosent seem fair for anyone not currently signed up. Some teams simply have not added players to their roster and they will now not be able to play the division that their teammates want to play?

In my opinion the MWPPA should either move teams up/down to meet the new criteria or allow the previous criteria to stand for this event.

That is the only wait to be fair to everyone attending.

It will not affect any division other then the BEGINNER! If we were to allow the old rules to play, 6 teams from the ROOKIE division could move down and play BEGINNER. As posted earlier we are trying to get players with no tournament experience and one year or less of playing experience into the tournament scene. We did not catch the play on words that had been found prior to posting the rules and opening registration. Again we encourage players that do not meet the new criteria to move up to the rookie division...



didn't 4 years or more of tournament play automatically make you an AM? or did the rankings just change when the rook and beginner divisions where added? i know when i first started seeing the rookie division it was supposed to just be your first year of tournament play because the novice division was getting sandbagged to bad and new players had problems placing in tourneys. also how can APPA track NPPL rankings? you could be playing pro in the NPPL and now be considered a beginner according to APPA. I'm not saying the APPA system doesn't work but when people think your APPA ranking is what you are really ranked it can create some problems. i think its a great way of tracking players but its not something that provides accurate information.

I have never been aware of this, (four years and moving up) but may have been rules for a different circuit or league. NPPL rankings are tracked, only by the NPPL not the APPA we wish the APPA could work with the NPPL, but its not a perfect world. We do monitor both the NPPL and APPA.



Can I make a suggestion? This wouldn't pertain to this upcoming tourney, but, would it be a bad idea to separate division rankings by the number of tournaments played in instead of how high of a division ranking tournament you've played in. To me this would make a little more scense and probably even out the playing field for everyone. Plus there would probably be more teams for the higher divisions. That way players are divided by experience instead of what tournaments they've played in. This will be my first mwppa tourney so I'm trying not to be too quick to judge their methods. That's just my personal opinion on what I think might work a little better.

This is already in place for the 5 man to a point. It will be only counting MWPPA's players have played no other circuit. This is NOT the exact wording of the rule, but if you have played more then 5 events in a division or played 3 in a higher division then your ranking will go up, so in example player A plays 3 MWPPA's as Nov will be moved up to Am when the fourth event comes around; or if a player B plays 3 Rookies one year and then 2 the next year he will be moved up to the Nov. Yes it will change mid season and 3 man will not affect this!

Hope everyone understands. The 5 man, rules and details will be looked into great detail to ensure for few questions or problems. Lets get this back on track for the 3 man, sign up ends the 26th! Doors will open on Saturday and Sunday at 8!

[rockindapump]

im not going to argue about this anymore good luck to all the teams playing

[triggerhappyshawn]

who cares if the gophers are playing in begginner, when my team murders them it will be just that much more funny. :rotfl:

[Kostohris]

who cares if the gophers are playing in begginner, when my team murders them it will be just that much more funny. :rotfl:

what team are you on?

[triggerhappyshawn]

mn explicit black,

also for those who dont get it, im being sarcastic. lol. dc:)

[rockindapump]

i got it

[Dark_Knight]

Its gonna be an awesome tournament!!!! Everyone get paid up!!!! lets make this interesting!!! :whoo:

[rockindapump]

yeah seriously guys pay up

[straight-hATe]

Personally I believe that the problem doesn't lie between the undefined lines of begginer to rookie, but however it lies between rookie and novice. How can you have a team thats played six PSP's a novice MWPPA, a novice and ameutar SUP' Air, and other misc. novice tournaments play a rookie MWPPA? I know that youre argument will be that the team has different players, but then shouldnt they create a new team? Overall I believe that there is an entire chunk of rookie rated teams that should be bumped up to the novice status, I think that some teams are reluctant to switch to novice because they believe they will be facing much harder teams. however, if all of the potential novice teams switch at one time they will still be playing the equally ranked teams. This also will open up the Rookie bracket to legitimate rookie teams, it will create more diversity among paintball teams, and teams will be playing the correct skill level opponents.

"That's all i have to say about that."

-Forest Gump

[pbpancho]

Personally I believe that the problem doesn't lie between the undefined lines of begginer to rookie, but however it lies between rookie and novice. How can you have a team thats played six PSP's a novice MWPPA, a novice and ameutar SUP' Air, and other misc. novice tournaments play a rookie MWPPA? I know that youre argument will be that the team has different players, but then shouldnt they create a new team? Overall I believe that there is an entire chunk of rookie rated teams that should be bumped up to the novice status, I think that some teams are reluctant to switch to novice because they believe they will be facing much harder teams. however, if all of the potential novice teams switch at one time they will still be playing the equally ranked teams. This also will open up the Rookie bracket to legitimate rookie teams, it will create more diversity among paintball teams, and teams will be playing the correct skill level opponents.

"That's all i have to say about that."

-Forest Gump

I'm guessing you are talking about the WARBIRDS?

Newsflash: It doesn't matter what the WARBIRDS have played in the past, it only matters what the players on that roster have played. Why should they have to pick a new name??? Only ONE of the rostered players has ever played a PSP. Period. Most of the rest have only played 1 or 2 tournaments, or a bunch of AYTs. There is only 10 events total between the 5 of them. If 3 11 year olds made a team called Avalanche in the rookie division would that bother you too?

[djthen]

Holland is correct. I played all but one of the PSP's with the Warbirds last year and I can tell you that the players on the rookie team are just that, rookie players. Just to give you a comparision between our "rookie" guys and our "novice" guys, look at any of the rostered players tournament history on our novice team, that should show that those guys don't have the experience you are claiming they have. Two of the guys on that team just joined up with us at the beginning of this year. I can completely understand the worry that some players are having as it is no fun feeling like your getting sandbagged out of an event, but the MWPPA runs a great event and makes sure that the players rostered meet the criteria of the division they are in. It shouldn't matter who you practice with and it shouldn't matter what team name you use, what should matter is your playing skill and how well your team plays. Everyone needs to stop trying to get an "edge" by whining about this or that and trying to get teams bumped out of whatever division they are in when the event hasn't even started yet. Just to squash this before it starts to, I know Brett K. would back me up on this, if you lose don't blame it on the team you were complaining about or the reffs. You either got beat straight up or you beat yourselves, fix it and come back next time to win.

[Brent Kotchman]

Personally I believe that the problem doesn't lie between the undefined lines of begginer to rookie, but however it lies between rookie and novice. How can you have a team thats played six PSP's a novice MWPPA, a novice and ameutar SUP' Air, and other misc. novice tournaments play a rookie MWPPA? I know that youre argument will be that the team has different players, but then shouldnt they create a new team? Overall I believe that there is an entire chunk of rookie rated teams that should be bumped up to the novice status, I think that some teams are reluctant to switch to novice because they believe they will be facing much harder teams. however, if all of the potential novice teams switch at one time they will still be playing the equally ranked teams. This also will open up the Rookie bracket to legitimate rookie teams, it will create more diversity among paintball teams, and teams will be playing the correct skill level opponents.

"That's all i have to say about that."

-Forest Gump

This is the inherent problem with modern tournament paintball. When I played my first tournament, there were 2 classifications: beginner and advanced. I showed up having never played anything but woodsball. I looked at the players in the beginner class and then I looked at the players in the advanced class. When they asked me what division I wanted to play in, I chose "advanced"--cause the beginners looked like a joke.

I then proceeded to get sawed and lost 8 games straight. But I had a blast. The next time I showed up and played advanced again, because I wanted to get better.

But today, no one is concerned with getting better, they only care about "how low can I register?" "Am I eligible for beginner or rookie?" Despite the fact they have played paintball for years and own a $1200 gun.

That mentality is why most of you reading this have never won anything and why I have three NPPL medals hanging on my bookshelf.

--Brent Allan Kotchman

[MWPPA]

Personally I believe that the problem doesn't lie between the undefined lines of begginer to rookie, but however it lies between rookie and novice. How can you have a team thats played six PSP's a novice MWPPA, a novice and ameutar SUP' Air, and other misc. novice tournaments play a rookie MWPPA? I know that youre argument will be that the team has different players, but then shouldnt they create a new team? Overall I believe that there is an entire chunk of rookie rated teams that should be bumped up to the novice status, I think that some teams are reluctant to switch to novice because they believe they will be facing much harder teams. however, if all of the potential novice teams switch at one time they will still be playing the equally ranked teams. This also will open up the Rookie bracket to legitimate rookie teams, it will create more diversity among paintball teams, and teams will be playing the correct skill level opponents.

"That's all i have to say about that."

-Forest Gump

Please keep in mind in the past tournaments have had several different ranking systems that were poorly worded. The MWPPA has it laid out similar to the National level to try and keep some similarity. The owners group that several tournament promoters are a part of and several field/store owners are a part of are currently discussing this problem to help you the players.



I'm guessing you are talking about the WARBIRDS?

Newsflash: It doesn't matter what the WARBIRDS have played in the past, it only matters what the players on that roster have played. Why should they have to pick a new name??? Only ONE of the rostered players has ever played a PSP. Period. Most of the rest have only played 1 or 2 tournaments, or a bunch of AYTs. There is only 10 events total between the 5 of them. If 3 11 year olds made a team called Avalanche in the rookie division would that bother you too?

Hit right on the head, Names are names and players are players. Players need to meet the requirements not team names. We use the APPA to ensure fairness.

[paintballaddict15]

If am or nov fails to fill up would those teams get bumped into the rookie division?

[Kostohris]

guys it really doesn't matter, read the rules, you will see rookie IS D4 and down, You could play 1000 D4 tourneys and still be ranked rookie. just play and be happy MWPPA is putting on such an event.

[Kave]

If am or nov fails to fill up would those teams get bumped into the rookie division?

Nope, atleast I hope not. If they fit the player classifacation they are more then welcome to re-enter in the lower division I would assume.

[MWPPA]

Players will be allowed to move down ONLY if they meet the requirements. Teams will not be moving down. Again your only allowed to play in a division your qualified for.

[robot nuts]

lol warbairds arnt that good we played them at a magnum scrimmage and i play for magnum and there not that good dont worry magnum will take care of them for u lol

[triggerhappyshawn]

lol warbairds arnt that good we played them at a magnum scrimmage and i play for magnum and there not that good dont worry magnum will take care of them for u lol

lol.......you play for magnum? never seen you up there at nss......
does any other teams plan on playing? or did they just put there teams on the list to make themselves look good? lol

[straight-hATe]

answering Matt Hollands question, I think that once a team builds up a reputation for themselves that those players and that level of players should uphold there reputation, and not let the same team thats recorded as playing high level tournaments be represented by new players. They should create a branch off of the main team such as Dynasty and Dynasty Entrouge and Dynasty Dynamics. It helps to clarify that you aren't going to be playing the primary players of the team.

as an answer to MWPPA, thank you for trying to fix the problems of sandbagging and proper placement of players for future tournaments.

as an answet to robot nuts even though they didn't say anything to me, just as a personal opinion i think you and youre entire team are full of yourselves and arent as good as you make yourself out to be. If you really are that good why dont you bump up and go play with the amateurs? Seriously stop being dicks.

[rockindapump]

answering Matt Hollands question, I think that once a team builds up a reputation for themselves that those players and that level of players should uphold there reputation, and not let the same team thats recorded as playing high level tournaments be represented by new players. They should create a branch off of the main team such as Dynasty and Dynasty Entrouge and Dynasty Dynamics. It helps to clarify that you aren't going to be playing the primary players of the team.

as an answer to MWPPA, thank you for trying to fix the problems of sandbagging and proper placement of players for future tournaments.

as an answet to robot nuts even though they didn't say anything to me, just as a personal opinion i think you and youre entire team are full of yourselves and arent as good as you make yourself out to be. If you really are that good why dont you bump up and go play with the amateurs? Seriously stop being dicks.
qft ....

[pbpancho]

answering Matt Hollands question, I think that once a team builds up a reputation for themselves that those players and that level of players should uphold there reputation, and not let the same team thats recorded as playing high level tournaments be represented by new players. They should create a branch off of the main team such as Dynasty and Dynasty Entrouge and Dynasty Dynamics. It helps to clarify that you aren't going to be playing the primary players of the team.

as an answer to MWPPA, thank you for trying to fix the problems of sandbagging and proper placement of players for future tournaments.

as an answet to robot nuts even though they didn't say anything to me, just as a personal opinion i think you and youre entire team are full of yourselves and arent as good as you make yourself out to be. If you really are that good why dont you bump up and go play with the amateurs? Seriously stop being dicks.

I know what you mean and agree in many cases, but honestly, there really aren't any teams in MN with a constant enough roster for that to be worth it. Even the WARBIRDS tend to have a different roster every event. With MN paintball players coming and going as much as they do, having more names isn't really going to help much.

[triggerhappyshawn]

answering Matt Hollands question, I think that once a team builds up a reputation for themselves that those players and that level of players should uphold there reputation, and not let the same team thats recorded as playing high level tournaments be represented by new players. They should create a branch off of the main team such as Dynasty and Dynasty Entrouge and Dynasty Dynamics. It helps to clarify that you aren't going to be playing the primary players of the team.

as an answer to MWPPA, thank you for trying to fix the problems of sandbagging and proper placement of players for future tournaments.

as an answet to robot nuts even though they didn't say anything to me, just as a personal opinion i think you and youre entire team are full of yourselves and arent as good as you make yourself out to be. If you really are that good why dont you bump up and go play with the amateurs? Seriously stop being dicks.

rotfl, he doesnt play for magnum. I am up there every weekend and most tuesdays and wedsnedays reffing and playing during summer,
i have never seen this kid.

[robot nuts]

wow i dont go during weeks cuz i live a hour away i go every sunday noob and i always hang with erik and pat and sometimes steve and went to rco with all them to

[robot nuts]

if ur playin this tourney just see ok then

[triggerhappyshawn]

wow i dont go during weeks cuz i live a hour away i go every sunday noob and i always hang with erik and pat and sometimes steve and went to rco with all them to


lol.....you dont go during weeks? I dont understand how you have the impression that im a noob? lol. Like you said you dont go during weeks, so there is no way that you can have seen me play, to make a judgement of my skill level. I dont know many people off of magnum's c-line, so which line are you on? I was not trying to offend you, i just said that i have never seen you up there at all and that i am up there quite often. But the comment you made about the warbirds was somewhat uncalled for. At the m-dub if the warbirds beat your team i will seriously have a good laugh, as will everyone else that read your post. Well i will end my comment at that, wish ya good luck at the m-dub! :twocents:

[rockindapump]

lol.....you dont go during weeks? I dont understand how you have the impression that im a noob? lol. Like you said you dont go during weeks, so there is no way that you can have seen me play, to make a judgement of my skill level. I dont know many people off of magnum's c-line, so which line are you on? I was not trying to offend you, i just said that i have never seen you up there at all and that i am up there quite often. But the comment you made about the warbirds was somewhat uncalled for. At the m-dub if the warbirds beat your team i will seriously have a good laugh, as will everyone else that read your post. Well i will end my comment at that, wish ya good luck at the m-dub! :twocents:

children children simmer

[triggerhappyshawn]

im calm...lol :)

[rockindapump]

but "magnum" boy isnt

[triggerhappyshawn]

but "magnum" boy isnt

:rotfl:

[rockindapump]

do you play for warbirds


http://www.freewebs.com/team-sinister/videos.htm best breakout ever im the one laying down getting straddled

[triggerhappyshawn]

do you play for warbirds


http://www.freewebs.com/team-sinister/videos.htm best breakout ever im the one laying down getting straddled

no, i play for explicit. one of nss other sponsored teams.

[rockindapump]

got ya i might have played with you the this summer

[triggerhappyshawn]

so are more people going to pay and play the m-dub or just sit on here and talk about it?!!? lets go people deadline is tuesday! :whoo:

[rockindapump]

my team is paid:)

[Kave]

How much white is allowed on gear? Are white shoes ok, flex bottoms, soft ears? Any of these ok/not ok, just want to clear some things up before the event.

[pb4life]

shoes can be 49% white. i don't they you can have anything else be white.

[rockindapump]

nothing else white either buy new ones or cover in tape

[MWPPA]

Shoes will need to be 49% or less white. Goggles can not have any white, clothing with white lettering will be fine.

Make sure to get you entry fees in by Tuesday night!!!

[UNDXballer]

Were Payed up :whoo:

[pb4life]

when you register and pay for a team will they email you your team password?

[UNDXballer]

when you register and pay for a team will they email you your team password?

When i got the e-mail it was just receipt that i could print off. (Paying)
for Registering im not sure i did not start the team on APPA.

[pb4life]

ok. well we got the password. thanks though.

[rockindapump]

cmon boys and girls get registered
i want more people to shoot

[CRLucky]

Teams that are currently signed up for any division as of 2/19/08 at 2:45 p.m. will not be forced to move up in a division and players will be allowed to play that are currently rostered within those divisions. However all new teams and players will need to meet the following criteria,

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, and
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

Can someone with MWPPA tell me what teams/players are going to be allowed to play beginner this weekend and what teams/players are not. I saw at least two teams added yesterday that have players that don't meet the rules stated above. I have a brand new team and we are coming to have fun. Just want to know what the teams are going to look like before we spend 4 hours on the road one way and 2 nights in a hotel.

I'm excited about your tournament and look forward to being a part of your event. Look foward to hearing from you soon.

Thanks again for promoting a great paintball event for the kids.

[MWPPA]

We are aware of this and have been working on this already this morning. Players that were rostered before 2-19 @ 2:45 p.m. will be allowed to play under the old wording of the rules. All other players need to meet the updated rules. The following teams and players are allowed to play under the old rules.
Adventure Kids
Kevin Fiala
Justin Hess
Ballin on Budget
Ben Johnson
Gordon Johnson
Daniel Rice
MN Xplicit Black
Tyler Kidd
Shawn Murphy
Max Roth
Schools Out
No roster
SP Seconds
Micheal Gruhot
Taylor Lubich
Deron Scott
University of Minnesota Golden Gophers
Adam Larson
Nathaniel Mcdonald
Justin Poirer


Teams that are currently signed up for any division as of 2/19/08 at 2:45 p.m. will not be forced to move up in a division and players will be allowed to play that are currently rostered within those divisions. However all new teams and players will need to meet the following criteria,

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, and
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

The Schedule some teams may see is not the correct one, that was ran as a test by accident

[xJTeigs10]

frustrating...

[Kave]

frustrating...

It is what it is, so step up and play rookie.

[pb4life]

frustrating...
i know what you mean it's the THIRD time they changed the criteria.

[MWPPA]

Rules changed once, we are just making sure that everyone is well aware of this before this weekend. It has been republished several times. Again just trying to save players the hassle

[pb4life]

first the beginner division criteria was: no national tournament experience or one year or less playing experience.
second it was: no tournament experience or one year or less playing experience.
now it is: on tournametn experience and one year or less playing experience.
that is three times.

[triggerhappyshawn]

first the beginner division criteria was: no national tournament experience or one year or less playing experience.
second it was: no tournament experience or one year or less playing experience.
now it is: on tournametn experience and one year or less playing experience.
that is three times.


o god...sit online and ***** and moan about it why dont you?
PLAY PAINTBALL!!!

[pb4life]

maybe i'm just mad because one of the players on my team can't play anymore and we already paid.

[pb4life]

anyone need a team?

[CRLucky]

first the beginner division criteria was: no national tournament experience or one year or less playing experience.
second it was: no tournament experience or one year or less playing experience.
now it is: on tournametn experience and one year or less playing experience.
that is three times.

I for one think that the promoter is doing a great job. My team is having to live by the rules and so should everyone else. Show me where it said your second change "no tournament experience or one year or less playing experience". This is the same as first you are just playing with words.

See everyone Saturday.

[pb4life]

I for one think that the promoter is doing a great job. My team is having to live by the rules and so should everyone else. Show me where it said your second change "no tournament experience or one year or less playing experience". This is the same as first you are just playing with words.

See everyone Saturday.

1.7 PLAYER CLASSIFICATION – Beginner
1.71. A player will be considered BEGINNER if they meet the following
criteria:
a) One year or less of playing experience, or
b) No tournament experience.
1.72. The MWPPA reserves the right to review and correct the playing status of any player at any time.

[rockindapump]

pb grow a pair and quit your bitching if you had tourney experience why were you gonna play in beginer again i say grow a pair and play rookie

[pb4life]

he asked where it was so i showed him.

[rockindapump]

thats not the point if you wanna ball then play a division up if not quit bitching

[MWPPA]

We are going to continue to update all of you watching the APPA site.

The following teams/players have been reclassified in the beginner division. The MWPPA has taken several things into account when reclassifying players. We will continue to monitor this and would be glad to speak to anyone via the phone, or through PM's to help clear things up.

Balls Of Fire
Eric Skinner
Zachary Neumann
Mathew McCoy
Jamison Herrmann
Schools Out
Derek Beehler
Spectrum
Andrew Engelmeier
Zachary Lucas
Nicholas Tschida
Twin Cities Precision 2
Joseph Aspelin
Sam Jensen
Tyler Misko


We are aware of this and have been working on this already this morning. Players that were rostered before 2-19 @ 2:45 p.m. will be allowed to play under the old wording of the rules. All other players need to meet the updated rules. The following teams and players are allowed to play under the old rules.
Adventure Kids
Kevin Fiala
Justin Hess
Ballin on Budget
Ben Johnson
Gordon Johnson
Daniel Rice
MN Xplicit Black
Tyler Kidd
Shawn Murphy
Max Roth
Schools Out
No roster
SP Seconds
Micheal Gruhot
Taylor Lubich
Deron Scott
University of Minnesota Golden Gophers
Adam Larson
Nathaniel Mcdonald
Justin Poirer

[xJTeigs10]

It is what it is, so step up and play rookie.

Ive been signed up to play rookie since day one, I am speaking on behalf of some of the other teams.

[CRLucky]

Okay, now I agree with you about changing the rules again. Anyone else want to play beginner?

Rules are rules aren't they? I've never played this series before, is this group worth supporting? I was defensive of them before but I don't know.

[xJTeigs10]

Okay, now I agree with you about changing the rules again. Anyone else want to play beginner?

Rules are rules aren't they? I've never played this series before, is this group worth supporting? I was defensive of them before but I don't know.

I think its a great series, this drama is just the result of one-mishap. Great refs, great facilities, great competition, great prizes, reasonable entry fee. When all is said and done, it all comes down to whether you had fun or not, there is no such thing as a perfect series or event, but I think almost everyone has fun at MWPPA events.

Lets ask the all knowing chicken what he thinks of the MWPPA:
dc:)

There we have it, if its good enough for the chicken to dance to, its good enough to compete in.

[triggerhappyshawn]

so is bennington photo going to be taking pictures?

[Kostohris]

its a great series! no two ways about it. best in the region by FAR. It is very hard to try to determine whose at what level to the precision that these people are complaining about... i mean they want just the craziest ****, and it would all be so easy if they would just follow the rules and shhhhhh. play or don't play, enough complaining.

chris

[CRLucky]

its a great series! no two ways about it. best in the region by FAR. It is very hard to try to determine whose at what level to the precision that these people are complaining about... i mean they want just the craziest ****, and it would all be so easy if they would just follow the rules and shhhhhh. play or don't play, enough complaining.

chris

I'm sorry but know the facts...I'm trying to follow the rules and he just changed them. He said "Anyone who is rostered after 2-19 @ 2:46 p.m. needs to meet the new rules". This was posted in this forum and emailed to everyone registered as a beginner. He now is letting people registered today to play when they don't meet the rules he stated here and in the emails. I really want to follow the rules and wish he would follow the rules he keeps putting up here. I would love to play under them.

[CRLucky]

Let me know what the rules for Wednesday are going to be...I might want to change my roster.

[GMaster]

GarrettMaster Photography will be at this event taking photo coverage. If your team is interested, there are a few spots still open. $30 per line will get your team ~200 photos and as many team pictures as you wish. If you have any questions or would like to book your team, email me or visit http://action.garrettmaster.com

[MWPPA]

The reason why the previous listed players are being allowed is due to the fact, that when they (the players)signed up for the APPA. What I mean is a couple of kids are considering the very first time ever playing paintball as the start of their paintball experience. In example a 8 year old played once and did not play again un till he was 16 and started playing again and played only 3 times this year. Does this mean he has 8 years of playing experience? No, I can a sure you that the people on this list are beginner and if the players deserve to be in the rookie they are. JT and Gary both take the MWPPA very serious and work very hard to bring this series to you. We want nothing more then to run a fair, honest tournament. I do understand how this may seem frustrating to you. The reason why the list continues to be updated is to help all of you know sooner then later.

We have been on the phone, email, and PM all day. And yes it is 1209 wed morning and we are still working. We will continue to work late long hours to help answer everyones questions and concerns.


I will be happy to speak to anyone over the phone to help explain this. Just shoot me a PM and a phone number

[paintballaddict15]

so is the novice braket also gone?

[dcherne]

When is the latest time the rosters will be able to be edited?

[Dark_Knight]

Will you guys please stop complaining and just play. The two divisions you are complaining over are practically the same. The first tournament I ever played I played as a Novice, and I didnt get stomped either, and believe me if I can do that any of you can bump one class up. This is why Mid-west and more specifically MN paintball is such a joke everywhere else. Only here (MN) have I ever seen people so concerned with trying to play down as far as they can. Take the chance, gain the experience and leave the tournament better then you arrived. That simple, the classing systems are more than fair and everyone will have a great time, the tournament will be a positive experience for everyone. :prop:

[rossy y derey]

will there be a feild layout posted?
thanks for your help.
dc:)

[rockindapump]

field layout will be known saturday morning

[MWPPA]

Answer bunch of questions asked,

No field layout will be posted prior to the event as we have previously posted.

Rosters can only be edited by MWPPA staff after the pay date.

Only Rookie and Beginner teams will be playing this weekend

CRLucky I have been trying to call you this morning, I will keep trying

Bennington Photography will be on site along with others.



We will be starting a new thread later today or tomorrow regarding schedules and other information teams may want/ need to know.

JT

[rockindapump]

thanks

[EvilCreature]

Man, there sure is a lot of whining goin' on... Hopefully it will lead to some inspired paintball on Saturday/Sunday.

[pb4life]

we got a third player finaly. will the field layouts be the same?

[pb4life]

how many teams will advance to sunday in the rookie division? 8?

[triggerhappyshawn]

how many teams will advance to sunday in the rookie division? 8?

lol, u cluttered this thread.... :biggrin:

[MWPPA]

Again all info can be found here

http://www.mnpig.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1331#post1331

[CRLucky]

What do we need for a waiver? Can someone give me a link. Didn't know if it was just the same thing as the field waiver.

[Kostohris]

I'm sorry but know the facts...I'm trying to follow the rules and he just changed them. He said "Anyone who is rostered after 2-19 @ 2:46 p.m. needs to meet the new rules". This was posted in this forum and emailed to everyone registered as a beginner. He now is letting people registered today to play when they don't meet the rules he stated here and in the emails. I really want to follow the rules and wish he would follow the rules he keeps putting up here. I would love to play under them.

i do know the facts, i have been following this thread since day one, first off, i wasn't talking to you, i was talking in general, second, had you been following this thread yourself that would not have been news to you, he said that almost a week ago i believe. They are trying very hard and this is their first 3 man and it just seems like too many people don't appreciate what they are doing. If rule have to change because people are trying to read between the lines then fine, he is trying to make it as fair as possible, if your NOT a beginner dont try to play in that class, as simple as that, but people want to sandbag... thats why rookie filled up and nov and am were canceled.

chris

[pb4life]

3.11. Teams will qualify for the semi-finals by finishing the preliminaries with one of the top 8 (12, 16, or 24 depending on divisional attendance) scores for that division.
so how many go through to the semis?

[djthen]

16 for Rookie and 6 for beginner. This was posted on the other thread...look at http://www.mnpig.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229 for the rest of your questions and the rule book.

[robot nuts]

they shoulda put a team limit for rookie theres to many teams for such a small building lol dang this is gonna be a long tiring weekend lol

[straight-hATe]

they shoulda put a team limit for rookie theres to many teams for such a small building lol dang this is gonna be a long tiring weekend lol

quit youre bitching, why didnt youre team play ameteur like you said, then we wouldnt have to waste our time with you, you guys are all talk, magnum can blow my left.

[rossy y derey]

DONE!dc:)

[rockindapump]

quit youre bitching, why didnt youre team play ameteur like you said, then we wouldnt have to waste our time with you, you guys are all talk, magnum can blow my left.

you sir are my idol

[pbdrusko]

Good luck to everyone its a great event.

[rockindapump]

i dont think he wants to get arrested for beating the **** out of a pussy

[triggerhappyshawn]

this is robo nuts
v v v v v v v v v

http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi-bin/playerprofile.cgi?PID=33249

Theres a mug shot so you can tell him that stuff to his face dc:)

[pbdrusko]

lets keep the # of tools in here to a minimum....:Beating_A_Dead_Hors

[AIR ASSAULT PAINTBALL]

Thats right just when you didn't think it could get any better it does.

93x and two of the 93x girls are coming to the MWPPA this weekend
they will be there from 12pm to 2pm on Saturday March 1
with free stuff to hand out

YOU JUST GOT TO LOVE PAINTBALL

[straight-hATe]

*no one cares about magnum there just another northside team that has played at northside once and therefore theyre sponsered. I swear ive seen kids go to north side once and get a sponsorship there. alot of the teams that are "sponsered" by northside arent even legit, but choose to run their mouth. hATe . (pink flexes are for chode killers)

* Brent k.- you dont have to bragg to everyone of how you win sh!t no one cares, your on the best team in MN congratulations feel good about yourself.

[Little Dan]

Straight hATe--

Who are you?

[triggerhappyshawn]

Straight hATe--

Who are you?

i was thinking the same thing.......

[straight-hATe]

Jordan McGinnis

[rockindapump]

nick just thinks hes agg because he plays for the magnum c team. hmmmmm if the a team sucks i wonder how the c team is? and nick if you wanna take it up with me at the m-dub i will be more than willing ill just tell you right now tho im a marine

[triggerhappyshawn]

nick just thinks hes agg because he plays for the magnum c team. hmmmmm if the a team sucks i wonder how the c team is? and nick if you wanna take it up with me at the m-dub i will be more than willing ill just tell you right now tho im a marine

bull ****, ur like 15 lol

[rockindapump]

No Im 17 And Am Co Signed And I Have Pt Every Wed. And Train Almost Every Saturday With Marines That Good Enough For You

[straight-hATe]

here if you dont recognize my name youll probably recognize my face because i play like everywhere so hers my myspace, http://www.myspace.com/ghettomcginnis

[dcherne]

nick just thinks hes agg because he plays for the magnum c team. hmmmmm if the a team sucks i wonder how the c team is? and nick if you wanna take it up with me at the m-dub i will be more than willing ill just tell you right now tho im a marine

agg....psshhhaaww

[pbdrusko]

nick just thinks hes agg because he plays for the magnum c team. hmmmmm if the a team sucks i wonder how the c team is? and nick if you wanna take it up with me at the m-dub i will be more than willing ill just tell you right now tho im a marine

Im sorry chode ballers and little kids can leave now before they run their mouth off.

who the f#ck is Jordan ?

[robot nuts]

lol im not gonna argue most the kids that are arguing shoot ions and have no tourney experience and for those of u that know me like david was up bra bra lol ill be seeing u at the tourney but till then im done with this thread no more **** talking kk

[pb4life]

:focus:

[db3n]

ok so im going to watch the tourny, does it cost to get in if so how much?

[dcherne]

ok so im going to watch the tourny, does it cost to get in if so how much?

No, it does not.


My team is looking for another guy. So if you are a rookie and looking for a team to play on this weekend please pm me asap.

[MWPPA]

Nope free to watch :dribble:

[deadeye52]

Dont enjoy it too much:rolleyes:

[tsunami77]

does anyone know approximately what time the tournament will be done on saturday and sunday?

[NickM]

Last games are schedualed for about 4:30 on Saturday, not sure about sunday though

[RyanS]

Thanks to Gary and JT for making a great tournament like the mwppa :applaus:
Looking forward to playing tommorrow.
:laola:

[GMaster]

https://bluedrive.uwstout.edu/users/students/guntlyg/IMG_2964asdfs.jpg

:applaus:

[dclark]

The above tomfoolery resulted in a 1 for 1 FYI

[deadeye52]

bwahaha, i wish i would have seen that!!

good tourny overall, a bit too much obvious cheating for my likes, but it was good

[tsunami77]

we didn't get a 1 for 1 because of the pyramid, i (top) got hit in the pod and didn't know it then when we split out of the pyramid the refs saw the hit and called a 1 for 1 but no complaining here, the refs did an excellent job on their part and we didn't really expect to win the game anyways.

[speedair2]

my team one in beginer but what are the websites for the photos besides the bennington one what wass the other

[GMaster]

my team one in beginer but what are the websites for the photos besides the bennington one what wass the other

http://action.garrettmaster.com

I haven't published them to my site just yet. I took around 2,816 photos this time so I'm just trying to sort some folders out. I'll let you know when I get some online.

[triggerhappyshawn]

http://action.garrettmaster.com

I haven't published them to my site just yet. I took around 2,816 photos this time so I'm just trying to sort some folders out. I'll let you know when I get some online.


wow!! lol, thats alot

[GMaster]

I made the MWPPA gallery active. (Action.GarrettMaster.Com (http://action.garrettmaster.com)) It has a few pictures in it right now, but I expect it to be finished later tomorrow. I will also be sending out emails to the teams that hired me. It looks like I might be able to fit most of the teams on a server for downloading. I'm also going to post a link to an FAQ tomorrow which will hopefully answer many of the emails I've been receiving.

http://garrettmaster1.homeip.net:82/action/Events/MWPPAM12/IMG_1212asdfs.jpg

[rossy y derey]

nice pics garrett!

[UNDXballer]

Thats Sweet. Nice Pic's

[CRLucky]

It was a great event that was run very well and smooth. My hats off to the promoters and the refs. Look forward to playing at another event run by them. Thanks for the great experience and opportunity for all of the kids.

I personally want to say that Schools Out is an awesome team. Keep going guys. You will always have a fan in me.

[GMaster]

Two things:

1.) I've finished my MWPPA gallery for the most part. I have one more team to add to it, but they know who they are etc. Hey--I even put a few reffs in there haha. http://action.garrettmaster.com

2.) Here's an FAQ that will hopefully answer many of the emails I've been getting --> FAQ (http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=45074388#post45074388)

http://garrettmaster1.homeip.net:82/action/events/mwppam12/IMG_3176asdfs.jpg

[pb4life]

sweet pics.

[Kostohris]

oh... you only got one of me :( it is sweet though.

[pb4life]

oh... you only got one of me :( it is sweet though.
you should be glad he got atleast one of you. there was none of me.

[xJTeigs10]

If you want pictures of yourself, you are going to have to acquire his services with cash money. :twocents: :)

[Kostohris]

If you want pictures of yourself, you are going to have to acquire his services with cash money. :twocents: :)

Oh? so i am just lucky i got one then? sweet! now i feel honored! i take it you guys must have paid him then? there is a bunch of you!

Chris

[GMaster]

FAQ explains what I do :)

[Kostohris]

i c, now! i AM lucky! :cool: