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AaronTholey
12-01-2008, 01:53 PM
Got an Email from Camille today...

After ten years of working for the NPPL, it is with a heavy heart that I contact you today regarding the future of the league and all of Pacific Paintball.

Pacific Paintball and its subsidiaries will be filing proceedings under the United States Bankruptcy Code to effect a liquidation of their respective assets and business operations. The affairs and assets of Pacific Paintball LLC, NPPL LLC, XPSL LLC, PB2X LLC, Xtreme Paintball Fields LLC and Camp Pendleton Paintball LLC will be administered by a court appointed trustee in bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court will provide you with written instructions regarding how and where to file any claims in this matter.

Despite doing all we could do, we were unable to make the business a viable concern. Further, in this severe economic climate, we were unable to secure new funding. It is a truly regrettable outcome, though one which is unfortunately occurring more and more frequently in this environment. We thank all those who have supported us.

On a personal note, it has been the time of my life working with each of you over the past decade. I will continue to support this wonderful sport in many ways and hope that our paths will soon cross again. I can be reached at (714) 858 1923 or by email at camillelemanski@gmail.com should you have any questions or concerns regarding this announcement


All the best,

Camille Lemanski
camillelemanski@gmail.com
(714) 858 1923

Jay Shelley
12-01-2008, 02:49 PM
Wow

xJTeigs10
12-01-2008, 02:58 PM
daaang... im not an expert, but from my understanding of bankruptcy, this does not mean there will not be a 2009 NPPL season. As long as someone purchases the NPPL there will still be a league. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong.

This makes me wonder how the PSP is doing... did they have more teams this year than last year? what has been general trend for team attendance over the past 3 years? any noticeable similar trends between the NPPL and PSP? is this just not the right time for a national paintball league of any kind (due to lack of available credit, costs, and economy in general)?

where was the government bailout for the NPPL?? haha

Rising.Flames [Squeegee]
12-01-2008, 03:20 PM
daaang... im not an expert, but from my understanding of bankruptcy, this does not mean there will not be a 2009 NPPL season. As long as someone purchases the NPPL there will still be a league. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong.

It doesn't necessarily mean that.

They're liquidating their assets, so they're selling everything. If someone were to buy the NPPL from them the NPPL could continue.

mark kinG
12-01-2008, 05:56 PM
o.m.g wow

mark kinG
12-01-2008, 06:02 PM
so besides the psp that means that there is no more pro paintball or is that sort of just like are mwppa?

Rising.Flames [Squeegee]
12-01-2008, 06:36 PM
Those are the only 2 National Pro/Divisional Series in the US

Then you have all of the international series' But it means that in the next few years there will be a lot of changes to the national event scene. Hopefully all of which will make the national scene better.

Brent Kotchman
12-01-2008, 07:18 PM
The next few years will see the death of national DIVISIONAL play and a return to regional play with a unifying world cup. Much like the SPPL is played right now and a close copy of how NSG was originally run in the late 1980s. You play and qualify regionally for a shot at the the real deal end of the year event.

Bank on it.

Doyle
12-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Nooooooooooo there went plan B.

:mmph:

RyanS
12-01-2008, 08:45 PM
:travelling:
head across the pond and play the milliunium.

Also, hot off the presses at pbreserve.

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas (not quite..)

As reported on earlier via VFTD, Dave Youngblood (DYE), Lane Wright (PSP) and Rob Staudinger (Paintball Central), among others, are meeting in Las Vegas to discuss the PSP 2009 season. Prior to this mornings announcement (NPPL/Pacific Paintball LLC. throw in the towel), major discussions were to begin in the PSP camp regarding the often dreamed upon “one league” (one format, one brand, one league).

With the NPPL filing chapter 7 and liquidating its paintball holdings, Lane and Co. will be focusing on how they plan to weather the economic downturn (recession, depression, call it how you see it).

Ideas being tossed around include ending the NXL (as mentioned previously on PBR) and replacing it with professional and semi-professional divisions, increasing the ties with regional series (AXBL, CFOA, etc.) and patching up the relationship between the PSP and Millenium series. With that said, it should be noted that the NXL has been financed for a long time by Smart Parts and they will not be too happy about “putting that dog to rest”.

On the subject of brand names, rumors are circulating that the PSP is looking for a new series name that they can better brand on the industry. Apparently Procaps holding the X-ball trademark hasn’t helped the organization “expand” into new mediums and they will be looking for a new brand name. With that being said, word on the street is Smart Parts will be bidding fiercely for the rights to the NPPL brand name.

cheney0110
12-01-2008, 08:58 PM
Nooooooooooo there went plan B.

:mmph:

Thats what you get for being retarded!

justin84
12-01-2008, 09:18 PM
sign of the times i guess. hopefully something good will evolve from this... blehhhh..

Mike Koons
12-01-2008, 09:40 PM
Only played in one NPPL but it was great. another sad day in paintball. On the other hand, X-ball anyone? :)

pbdrusko
12-01-2008, 11:01 PM
sad. I guess we're going to see a lot more fields with giant x's ?

AaronTholey
12-01-2008, 11:17 PM
I'll I can say to the public right now is there will be ALOT of changes. :applaus:

Tron Carter
12-01-2008, 11:18 PM
Sucks

It can be argued which format was superior but the NPPL simply put on better events IMO. I guess it could be said that's the exact reason they filed bankruptcy but you never know.

Rising.Flames [Squeegee]
12-02-2008, 02:48 AM
Sucks

It can be argued which format was superior but the NPPL simply put on better events IMO. I guess it could be said that's the exact reason they filed bankruptcy but you never know.

It's the parent company that went under, not the NPPL specifically so no one can really begin to guess what the cause is. It'd be like if [pre-merger] Pinnacle were the mainly flown airlines. Pinnacle is a subsidiary of Northwest Airlines [was a subsidiary actually]. Northwest Airlines filing chapter 7 does not mean that Pinnacle was the cause.

tschroep
12-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Sucks

It can be argued which format was superior but the NPPL simply put on better events IMO. I guess it could be said that's the exact reason they filed bankruptcy but you never know.

Pretty much exactly, the NPPL put on a better "show", music, big promotions, etc.

It seems that the PSP had the preferred format as voted for by the players dollars.

IMO, playing paintball, regardless of the format should be what it's all about and not how cool the venue "looks" or seems to everyone, including those players that go to party instead of play.

That said, I feel bad for those "players" that actually enjoyed the format over xball - as they are the ones that will be truly left out:(

--Tim

DUNBAR
12-02-2008, 05:46 PM
lol silly. yes, the govt. could bail out the parent co. of the NPPL, just like they are doing for every other co. that went down the toilet recently......."here is 700 billion that just happen to show up in our treasury, and could you have the same people try to rebuild what they have torn down?"

btw......when you realize that it will eventually cost you, through taxes:twocents::twocents::twocents:, it will already be to late as the ones who F*ed up will be gone, however we'll still be here footing the bill for someone else's mistakes, years down the line! and

Dictatorships always seem to get things done more efficiently.

Rising.Flames [Squeegee]
12-02-2008, 07:48 PM
lol silly. yes, the govt. could bail out the parent co. of the NPPL, just like they are doing for every other co. that went down the toilet recently......."here is 700 billion that just happen to show up in our treasury, and could you have the same people try to rebuild what they have torn down?"

The NPPL doesn't have a large enough effect on the economy for the government to give a lick. All other companys that were bailed would have MASSIVE impact on the nation if they went down. Paintball is a pasttime by all reasonable means - if Paintball were to never exist you can't say the world would be a different place. Look at all the people who go around having no idea what paintball players do. Paintball is very low on the gov priority list.

AIR ASSAULT PAINTBALL
12-02-2008, 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DUNBAR
lol silly. yes, the govt. could bail out the parent co. of the NPPL, just like they are doing for every other co. that went down the toilet recently......."here is 700 billion that just happen to show up in our treasury, and could you have the same people try to rebuild what they have torn down?"



;9881']The NPPL doesn't have a large enough effect on the economy for the government to give a lick. All other companys that were bailed would have MASSIVE impact on the nation if they went down. Paintball is a pasttime by all reasonable means - if Paintball were to never exist you can't say the world would be a different place. Look at all the people who go around having no idea what paintball players do. Paintball is very low on the gov priority list.



You've got to be kidding
Is this for real?

Gary

vector
12-02-2008, 09:34 PM
lol. the gov doesnt even now what the nppl is.

Rising.Flames [Squeegee]
12-02-2008, 10:07 PM
Quote:
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Little

Gary

Who's the one joking now.
You show me somewhere that the National Government gives a rats *** about the paintball industry. Paintball-oriented laws do not count as Government concern. The government won't hep out any paintball industry unless they can see a bigger impact group than the paintball industry.

Mojo
12-02-2008, 10:19 PM
Big world kiddies! And Gary you know what I mean. :eek: But Tim S. and Ryan S, have the best perspective...read their posts on this sub! And as Ryan stated...Smart Parts may have a BIG say on 2009/ :gossip:

Doyle
12-02-2008, 11:16 PM
lol @ gov't bail out being brought up.

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with for next year, just wish someone who had large sums of money would buy up the NPPL. Hmmm who do we know whose loaded???.. Hmmmm

So Gary wanna buy the NPPL?

btw I'm 100% joking, but I hope someone revives it or comes up with something new for next year. :xfingers:

ICEINTHEBLOOD
12-03-2008, 09:08 AM
actually gary and schroep should buy it the world of paintball would be changed forever i got your backs

xJTeigs10
12-03-2008, 10:09 AM
just for the record.... i was totally kidding about the whole bailout thing.

i think everyone realizes that the government would never bailout the nppl, and people have probably just misinterpreted other peoples attempts at sarcasm/humor.

ColeLarsen
12-03-2008, 04:07 PM
rising flames i hope youre not serious i know the people bringing up the bailout arent. if they are holy **** DUMB!

HoboPaintballa
12-03-2008, 05:28 PM
Nooooooooooo there went plan B.

:mmph:

*Blows own brains out*

Doyle
12-03-2008, 05:44 PM
just for the record.... i was totally kidding about the whole bailout thing.

i think everyone realizes that the government would never bailout the nppl, and people have probably just misinterpreted other peoples attempts at sarcasm/humor.

Completely off topic but...

Everything can be turned into a bail out joke now. US Bail outs = one big giant joke

:focus:

I thought the PSP would've gone under before the NPPL, a lot of teams were switching or planning to switch over to super 7

Stewy tha Jewy
12-03-2008, 05:55 PM
I could have figured that NPPL would flop. I heard a rumor that the leagues were thinking about a merge, but I also heard that because of this, the PSP may be changing a little bit to compensate for the loss of the NPPL.
Or it could just be more BS from the rumor mill!:mmph:

all i have to say is poor Doyle!:rolleyes:

Doyle
12-03-2008, 06:00 PM
all i have to say is poor Doyle!:rolleyes:

LoL, Thanks :cheeky:

I'll figure something out, what can I say.. guilty by association I guess, not to much I can do about that.

pbpancho
12-03-2008, 06:41 PM
I thought the PSP would've gone under before the NPPL, a lot of teams were switching or planning to switch over to super 7

Haha, then you weren't paying very much attention to how each league was being run. I am pissed that PB2X is bankrupt... they owe me money still!

Doyle
01-02-2009, 12:29 AM
Anyone heard any update on this? It really makes the nppl paintball championship 2009 game ironic.

on a side note, I just beat that game.. its amusing but controls suck, atleast for wii

ICEINTHEBLOOD
01-02-2009, 12:28 PM
that they do for the wii give me a hint on how not to give myself a seizure playing it for wii i cannot get the controls down at all whats the trick...

Doyle
01-04-2009, 03:06 AM
that they do for the wii give me a hint on how not to give myself a seizure playing it for wii i cannot get the controls down at all whats the trick...

I had that problem too, I adjusted sensitivity down and sat further away

Back on topic, does anything think NPPL will be bought out?
Like the name/logo/website and all that, or do you think another company will come along to compete with the PSP? expecially now with all the rule changes

I think Brent had mentioned a switch to a regional format where you'd have to earn spot to play at world cup... I think that would actually be really cool to have different conferences and such, makes a lot of sense too